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(laughter) >> do like ronald reagan? do you like ronald reagan? >> of course i do. >> i'll make you ronald reagan by you, and i can go in anderson, south carolina and get a social security saying you're ronald reagan. if you're an employer and a hispanic person comes to you with a card that says i'm ronald reagan, you say you don't look like ronald reagan, you can get sued. so what i want to do is have documents that can be verified for employment. i think we should all turn our social security card into a biometric document that can't be faked and you go back to roger ailes to renew your contract, you need to pay mike more. >> say that one more time. >> roger ailes, mike huckabee knocks it out the park on saturday night. >> there you go, there you go. >> when you go back to negotiate with roger, you have a document that fox news can prove quickly that you're mike huckabee. if you did that one thing along with securing the border, it would be harder than heck to hire an illegal immigrant. and if they do, they should lose their business and go to j
(laughter) >> do like ronald reagan? do you like ronald reagan? >> of course i do. >> i'll make you ronald reagan by you, and i can go in anderson, south carolina and get a social security saying you're ronald reagan. if you're an employer and a hispanic person comes to you with a card that says i'm ronald reagan, you say you don't look like ronald reagan, you can get sued. so what i want to do is have documents that can be verified for employment. i think we should all turn...
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reagan was asked if he had anything to say to the people in the country who did not vote for him and who did not feel that they were part of the reagan revolution. he was also asked about nancy reagan falling down and bumping her head right before the election. he said that she had a tender lump on the side of her head, but that she would be fine. in president clinton's first press conference, after he was re-elected to a second term, the president started to answer a question about the role of first lady hillary clinton in the second clinton term, before he sort of diverted himself into talking about just how damned tired he was. >> well, let me answer the question about hillary. i think what first lady will do is something that i think it will be consistent with what she's been doing, but we have not, frankly, we've been too tired to talk about it. yesterday, i'm embarrassed to tell the american people, i actually slept past noon. i was tired. >> there's no shame in that. >> in the first press conference that george w. bush gave after he was re-elected in 2004, the president gave a
reagan was asked if he had anything to say to the people in the country who did not vote for him and who did not feel that they were part of the reagan revolution. he was also asked about nancy reagan falling down and bumping her head right before the election. he said that she had a tender lump on the side of her head, but that she would be fine. in president clinton's first press conference, after he was re-elected to a second term, the president started to answer a question about the role of...
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the republican party may talk about ronald reagan but they haven't embraced ronald reagan. america and ronal reagan, my father's vision of america is still there, what we are missing is ronald reagan. shannon: where are republicans missing the mark? >> my father was so inclusive in everything he did. he never smoke down to people. he spoke with people. he was somebody who was inclusive. i talked about it before on this show with the hispanic communities and females. this is as man who found areas of agreement and moved the ball forward. he didn't look for areas of disagreement and not most ball at all. i think the republican party can do well to learn from ronald reagan. i think it only place where you find people fighting for education, fighting for the grassroots of america really is at fox or talk radio. but you do not see it in the party leaders anymore. they are so busy paying attention to consultants they forgot the people of this country. we need to get back to actually representing the people, not representing the consultants. shannon: you talk about the fact that y
the republican party may talk about ronald reagan but they haven't embraced ronald reagan. america and ronal reagan, my father's vision of america is still there, what we are missing is ronald reagan. shannon: where are republicans missing the mark? >> my father was so inclusive in everything he did. he never smoke down to people. he spoke with people. he was somebody who was inclusive. i talked about it before on this show with the hispanic communities and females. this is as man who...
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. >> bill: they say we're doing this in the legacy of ronald reagan. bull you know what. ronald reagan raised taxes five times. >> reagan would have no place in the current republican party given some of the things they did. grover norquist holds him up as an icon. grover is in a completely different place than he is on taxes. >> bill: why don't the media expose these people as the liars and hypocrites that they are? >> because they're fair and balanced. >> bill: so are we going over the fiscal cliff? >> i think we are. i think we are. for a couple of reasons. one, there's not a whole lot of time. it is six weeks from tomorrow to the start -- >> bill: they don't have any backbone. >> that's number two. number three 80 lame ducks who may not show up to vote. plus you've got this stale -- continuing stalemate on tax and spending policies and then on top of everything else, it is not really a fiscal cliff. it is a fiscal slope. it stays in place. they called it a cliff but the damage to the economy the real damage only happens if you expose it. >> bill: stan collender, check
. >> bill: they say we're doing this in the legacy of ronald reagan. bull you know what. ronald reagan raised taxes five times. >> reagan would have no place in the current republican party given some of the things they did. grover norquist holds him up as an icon. grover is in a completely different place than he is on taxes. >> bill: why don't the media expose these people as the liars and hypocrites that they are? >> because they're fair and balanced. >> bill:...
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it wasn't terribly long ago that ronald reagan won 49 states. that's a mandate. it's unthinkable that any candidate can win anywhere close to that. obama won a pretty impressive victory even without a serious third party candidate, he did not get 51% of the popular vote. he won 26 states to romney's 24 states. we'll see time after time very, very close elections. we need to rethink the negotiations of mandates and say this person won the presidency. they need to go forward with that agenda. >> what about the republicans? are they going to do a big rethink here? >> yes, and more than one. it was interesting that the republican governors happened to be meeting this week in las vegas when this news about the interesting comments that romney made to his donors that we just saw and the republican governors, bobby jindal of louisiana did not miss five seconds before they really denounced what romney was saying. the republicans have a lot of things to think about, not of which is their growing problem with hispanic voters. that is the big growing group in this country.
it wasn't terribly long ago that ronald reagan won 49 states. that's a mandate. it's unthinkable that any candidate can win anywhere close to that. obama won a pretty impressive victory even without a serious third party candidate, he did not get 51% of the popular vote. he won 26 states to romney's 24 states. we'll see time after time very, very close elections. we need to rethink the negotiations of mandates and say this person won the presidency. they need to go forward with that agenda....
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ronald reagan's second term -- >> a few months ago, i told the american people i did not trade arms for hostages. my heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not. >> reporter: the iran contra affair. bill clinton -- >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. >> reporter: impeached after the lewinsky mess. and george w. bush, well, there was the valerie plame spygate scandal, not to mentioning the handling of hurricane katrina. that's trouble for roughly 100% of re-elected presidents since 1972. yes, it's enough to give you second thoughts about that second term. so is there anything the obama team can do to prevent this? now, as bill clinton might say. >> it depends upon what the meaning of the word "is" is. >> reporter: the fact is, if there is going to be a second-term scandal, its seeds were probably sewn in the first term. the watergate break-in, nixon's first term. the actual iran contra deal, reagan's first term. bill clinton's liaison with lewinsky, first term. the actual plame leaks, first term. so if the obama tea
ronald reagan's second term -- >> a few months ago, i told the american people i did not trade arms for hostages. my heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not. >> reporter: the iran contra affair. bill clinton -- >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. >> reporter: impeached after the lewinsky mess. and george w. bush, well, there was the valerie plame spygate scandal, not to mentioning the handling...
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if she ran and were elected in 2016 she would be younger than ronald reagan was when he became president. >> as appealing as jeb bush would be as a candidate, i think hillary has an advantage here because so many women, republicans as well, would love to vote for hillary clinton, put her as the first lady in the white house. >> i spent the last year in an election and refused to answer that question. [laughter] >> hillary clinton made a lot of friends as secretary of state. some of them were republicans, not traditional fans of clinton. jeb bush is a very likable candidate. but i'd guess that hillary is really -- she works hard at this nomination, she can unify the party big-time and i bet she'll have obama supporting her. chris: and especially if the economy is good the next four years. thanks for the great round table. that's the show. thanks for watching and don't forget that the victims of hurricane sandy are really hurting right now. especially after that new york, new jersey area. these tragedies hurting real families like yours. give them a lift. go to the red cross website. we'll
if she ran and were elected in 2016 she would be younger than ronald reagan was when he became president. >> as appealing as jeb bush would be as a candidate, i think hillary has an advantage here because so many women, republicans as well, would love to vote for hillary clinton, put her as the first lady in the white house. >> i spent the last year in an election and refused to answer that question. [laughter] >> hillary clinton made a lot of friends as secretary of state....
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ronald reagan was 69 when he first ran for president. many worried he was too old for the job until his famous quip during a debate. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> yes, reagan used age to his advantage. but seriously, how old is too old? remember senator strom thurman who commuted from walter reed to the capitol at the age of 100? his aides had to vote for him. of course, this argument isn't limited to the world of politics. ageism rages in the role world, too. how often have you heard those under 30 grumbling about those old guys sucking up all the jobs? so the talk back question of the day, should politicians have a mandatory retirement age? facebook.com/carolcnn. your responses later this hour. still the most dependable, longest-lasting full-size pickups on the road. and now we've also been recognized for lowest total cost of ownership -- based on important things, like depreciation, fuel, and maintenance costs. and now trade
ronald reagan was 69 when he first ran for president. many worried he was too old for the job until his famous quip during a debate. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> yes, reagan used age to his advantage. but seriously, how old is too old? remember senator strom thurman who commuted from walter reed to the capitol at the age of 100? his aides had to vote for him. of course,...
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ronald reagan won a lowly landslide with no mandate in 1984. wasn't morning in america? there was a bear in the woods. walter mondale -- and he won 49 states. that is when tax reform became the centerpiece of his administration. >> ok, let's dig into the election. >> whether i have earned your vote or not, i have listened to you, i have learned from you, and you have made me a better president. >> at a time like this, we cannot risk partisan bickering. our leaders have to reach across the aisle to do the citizens work. >> an extremely gracious concession speech by gov. romney. romney lost the state where he was governor, the state where he votes, mass., some pundits have egg all over their faces. what made the difference with this, mark? >> when you run a good campaign, give credit to the campaign. there was an enormous effort. people disparaged the ground game. it was super. is surpassed anything we had seen before. and the president voiced that campaign. at the same time, in a year when americans were furious at pennsylvania avenue and wall street, the republicans chos
ronald reagan won a lowly landslide with no mandate in 1984. wasn't morning in america? there was a bear in the woods. walter mondale -- and he won 49 states. that is when tax reform became the centerpiece of his administration. >> ok, let's dig into the election. >> whether i have earned your vote or not, i have listened to you, i have learned from you, and you have made me a better president. >> at a time like this, we cannot risk partisan bickering. our leaders have to...
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may talk about ronald reagan but they haven't really embraced ronald reagan. >> somehow i don't think he hit the nail on the head. but louisiana governor bobby jindal might be onto something. he says the republicans need to stop being the stupid party. wow, the stupid party. there is a war inside the gop and nobody knows how this will end. joining me now, steve kornacki and krystal ball, co-hosts of "the cycle" on msnbc. >> our guys, the upper echelon of the republican party, want to fashion themselves as members of the ruling class. we the country class are not in the ruling class. we're in a problem. >> steve, limbaugh is pointing to a big split in the party. where do you think this is going? is this a fight we're going to see rush and the establishment have? >> yeah. this is the problem for the republican party. that kind of a fight is probably good for rush limbaugh in terms of it gives him something to talk about, gives him status within the conservative movement. and it really allows him to rile up his audience, his base and say, i'm the voice of the pure conservative. it's this
may talk about ronald reagan but they haven't really embraced ronald reagan. >> somehow i don't think he hit the nail on the head. but louisiana governor bobby jindal might be onto something. he says the republicans need to stop being the stupid party. wow, the stupid party. there is a war inside the gop and nobody knows how this will end. joining me now, steve kornacki and krystal ball, co-hosts of "the cycle" on msnbc. >> our guys, the upper echelon of the republican...
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democrat just lost two elections in a row to ronald reagan. what did we do? we nominated michael dukakis who is a fine man but a liberal from massachusetts. it took three beatings for to us realize you have to make common cause of moderates. that is the internal struggle the republican have to go through. true to principle on fiscal issues but if they embrace the far right social agenda it drives off the young people and alienate single women and suburban women and you see it in the numbers. >> senator, in your state of indiana -- >> can i say one last thing? if i could just get -- if i could say one last thing. please continue to nominate people for public office talking about women being rap rapeed. >> won by only five points such a bad year. republicans should not kid themselves. republican lost 25 of 33 senate seats. republicans gained back the seats easy to gain back when no other new state at the presidential level. obama had a tough economy, glow gone from the first term, and all of that. republicans lost the national household by half a million votes.
democrat just lost two elections in a row to ronald reagan. what did we do? we nominated michael dukakis who is a fine man but a liberal from massachusetts. it took three beatings for to us realize you have to make common cause of moderates. that is the internal struggle the republican have to go through. true to principle on fiscal issues but if they embrace the far right social agenda it drives off the young people and alienate single women and suburban women and you see it in the numbers....
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we are separated today from ronald reagan as i was from tom dewey. there is so much about republicanism and conservative that is compelling and that is appealing to people of all kinds of ethnicities, men and women, sexual orientations of every variety. americans are entrepreneurial, workers, savers, and want the message, but don't want to be told that they belong to 47% that doesn't count. >> david, a real fight on your hands within the republican party. david frum, author of "why romney lost," crystal ball and steve kornacki, thank you for joining me. >>> coming up, the first battle that will be fought in the republican civil war will be over taxes and some republicans are already sounding like liberal democrats on that one. carolyn finney and jonathan capehart will join me. sex, lies, and e-mail brought down the director of the cia. tonight, the story is getting stranger by the hour. the newest twist involves the shirtless e-mails of one of the fbi investigatoinvestigators, a the hour, law enforcement officials have conducted a search of paula bro
we are separated today from ronald reagan as i was from tom dewey. there is so much about republicanism and conservative that is compelling and that is appealing to people of all kinds of ethnicities, men and women, sexual orientations of every variety. americans are entrepreneurial, workers, savers, and want the message, but don't want to be told that they belong to 47% that doesn't count. >> david, a real fight on your hands within the republican party. david frum, author of "why...
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reagan with the blowing up of the u.s. marines in beirut. >> now david petraeus will testify about the benghazi attack tomorrow, exactly a week after he resigned cite an extramarital affair. and there is word secretary of state hillary clinton will testify on benghazi next month. here is the latest from the pentagon on the petraeus scandal. first let's get to katherine who is live in washington. katherine, the scope of all of this is pretty unusual. >> well those two classified hearings bring together the government's top intelligence and law enforcement officials. what was clear was the president's comments on ambassador susan rice is really getting some traction. one republican alleging that, quote, the president misinformed and lied to the american people over the benghazi affair. what was also clear is that the president wants to promote ambassador susan rice. even though she said benghazi was a spontaneous attack when it seemed clear it was terrorism. >> president obama has the gal to float the name of secretary of st
reagan with the blowing up of the u.s. marines in beirut. >> now david petraeus will testify about the benghazi attack tomorrow, exactly a week after he resigned cite an extramarital affair. and there is word secretary of state hillary clinton will testify on benghazi next month. here is the latest from the pentagon on the petraeus scandal. first let's get to katherine who is live in washington. katherine, the scope of all of this is pretty unusual. >> well those two classified...
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ronald reagan was the president. and david stockman, before he turned tail, was the budget director. but you know what? we had a ton of spending cuts. a ton of spending cuts. and i have the scars here on my back to show. >> i know. >> and people just go crazy. you've had the same experience. what i'm saying to you is this. before anybody talks about a dollar of new tax revenue, why haven't we exhausted every dollar of spending cuts? that's what -- before we even get to the revenue, why don't we go through spending? and i'm not -- yes, entitlement reform, but also there's a lot of inefficient and duplicative and whole agencies we don't need. before you talk about revenues, one nickel of rev few, why don't we have the conversation on spending? >> i don't know, larry. it's a tremendous frustration. we've seen this for a long, long time, both parties. we really do need a thorough scrub. and they've done it before. they come up with lots of program cancellations. and they never get through congress. we certainly need enti
ronald reagan was the president. and david stockman, before he turned tail, was the budget director. but you know what? we had a ton of spending cuts. a ton of spending cuts. and i have the scars here on my back to show. >> i know. >> and people just go crazy. you've had the same experience. what i'm saying to you is this. before anybody talks about a dollar of new tax revenue, why haven't we exhausted every dollar of spending cuts? that's what -- before we even get to the revenue,...
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. >> why not do what lbj and bill clinton and ronald reagan did and smooze with the speaker of the house? he's the one you have to win over. >> it starts friday. they have arranged a meeting. it will be their first since july they all sat around the table together. everyone up on the hill said he needed to do more of it. i don't think anybody at the white house would deny he has to do more outreach. we will see. >> it headaches sense. if you get a deal, and it might be now tenth bush era tax cuts might be linked to the deficit and it might not be so much a cliff as little one of bumps in the road. >> we will watch and see what happens. >> up next, reverend graham, his group brings christmas to many needy children around the world. for most of these children it's their first gift ever. reverend graham is here to tell you about it. that's neck. alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the
. >> why not do what lbj and bill clinton and ronald reagan did and smooze with the speaker of the house? he's the one you have to win over. >> it starts friday. they have arranged a meeting. it will be their first since july they all sat around the table together. everyone up on the hill said he needed to do more of it. i don't think anybody at the white house would deny he has to do more outreach. we will see. >> it headaches sense. if you get a deal, and it might be now...
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ronald reagan's second term. my heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. >> the iran contra affair. bill clinton. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. impeached after the lewinsky mess. . that's trouble for roughly 100% of reelected presidents since 1972. enough to give you second thoughts about that second term. so, is there anything the obama team can do to prevent this? now, as bill clinton might say -- >> it depends upon what the meaning of the word is. >> the fact is, if there is going to be a second term scandal, it's seeds were probably sewn in the first term. the watergate break in, nixon's first term -- >> if the obama team was going to mess up, history suggests they already did. maybe it's something that has made headlines already, but maybe not, the lewinsky scandal didn't surface in 1998, maybe the obama administration will make it's own history and avoid a second term scandal. if not, disney world will seem very appealing
ronald reagan's second term. my heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. >> the iran contra affair. bill clinton. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. impeached after the lewinsky mess. . that's trouble for roughly 100% of reelected presidents since 1972. enough to give you second thoughts about that second term. so, is there anything the obama team can do to prevent this? now, as bill clinton might say...
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you know, since ronald reagan we no longer have 70% tax rates on the highest income earners. nobody is arguing for that. we're arguing to go back to 39.6%. on health care reform, the president's health care reform was basically a conservative idea put into the national spotlight by democrats and passed by democrats. education reform. even cap and trade is really a republican approach to solving environmental problems. we no longer have anyone saying we don't need to balance the budget. in a lot of ways these conservative ideas have won the day. so republicans are in a place where they moved further and further to the right as the democratic party has amoved further and further to the right. now they're out in the mainstream, and in order to have a meaningful, stark contrast with democrats, they've gone to such a far right place that the american people just aren't comfortable with what they propose. >> i'm encouraged by some of the language i heard coming from some folks on the right. there's still people in conservative circles who are saying we can't compromise our values.
you know, since ronald reagan we no longer have 70% tax rates on the highest income earners. nobody is arguing for that. we're arguing to go back to 39.6%. on health care reform, the president's health care reform was basically a conservative idea put into the national spotlight by democrats and passed by democrats. education reform. even cap and trade is really a republican approach to solving environmental problems. we no longer have anyone saying we don't need to balance the budget. in a lot...
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. >> jimmy: any way, maybe ronald reagan will come back. >> oh, yeah! >> jimmy: just say you did it for him. at least you will have a fun conversation piece for thanksgiving for the rest of your life. thank you for talking with us, eric, appreciate your time. an individual. [ cheers and applause ] he is all right with it, i guess. and hope you are all prepared for national unfriend day, a holiday, every november 17th, i give you an opportunity to unfriend anyone on facebook who is not actually your friend. most people have some where between like four and 30 friend in your life. facebook friend can go into the thousand. time to get rid of them. these are the people you should unfriend first. went through a few last night. a friend we have all been dealing with lately, the overpolitical friend. everything this person posts is angry and politically oriented. they share links to huffington post articles you are never going to read. jam your political opinions into things that have nothing to do with politics. lakers fire coach mike brown, nice work on unem
. >> jimmy: any way, maybe ronald reagan will come back. >> oh, yeah! >> jimmy: just say you did it for him. at least you will have a fun conversation piece for thanksgiving for the rest of your life. thank you for talking with us, eric, appreciate your time. an individual. [ cheers and applause ] he is all right with it, i guess. and hope you are all prepared for national unfriend day, a holiday, every november 17th, i give you an opportunity to unfriend anyone on facebook...
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democrats had lost two elections in a row to ronald reagan. and what did we do? nominated michael dukakis, a fine man but a liberal from massachusetts and the internal struggle republicans will go through, they have to be true to their principles, particularly on economic and fiscal issues but when they embrace the far right social agenda it drives off young people and it does alienate single women and suburban women... >> senator, i mean, your state -- >> what i'm saying -- >> republican governor. >> chris: wait, wait, wait. >> one last thing, please continue to nominate people for public office who talk about women being raped and that being god's will. >>... actually a great -- won by only five points, and republicans should not kid themselves, they lost 25 to 33 senate seats and republicans gained back the two states easy to gain back and no other new state at the presidential level and obama had a tough economy and, the glow was gone from the first temrm and republicans los the national house, and redistricting and democratic voters are more concentrated in
democrats had lost two elections in a row to ronald reagan. and what did we do? nominated michael dukakis, a fine man but a liberal from massachusetts and the internal struggle republicans will go through, they have to be true to their principles, particularly on economic and fiscal issues but when they embrace the far right social agenda it drives off young people and it does alienate single women and suburban women... >> senator, i mean, your state -- >> what i'm saying --...
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he needed to talk about the jack kemp conservativeism and ronald reagan and larry kudlow conservatism of economic growth of prosperity of bringing people in. reagan that did the big apple nesty in 1988. >> exactly. '86. >> i stand correct. >> we didn't call it amnesty. everybody knew what it was. basically the idea was that, you know, would buy time and buy 20 years. you are not against border security. what do we do with the good folks here now? >> we need that. border security -- in a post-9/11 age, border security is the first priority. >> right. but after that, we immediate to deal with the situation. you know, the -- the so-called illegals, some people don't like calling them that, undocumented individuals, they struggle to get here. they want to be part of the system. they want to earn a living. i don't know if immigrants that come here, legal or illegal, that want to come and go on welfare. they want to work and become part of the system. they want to share in the great american dream. these are republican values. and -- the fact when you look at the exit polls, 70% of asians a
he needed to talk about the jack kemp conservativeism and ronald reagan and larry kudlow conservatism of economic growth of prosperity of bringing people in. reagan that did the big apple nesty in 1988. >> exactly. '86. >> i stand correct. >> we didn't call it amnesty. everybody knew what it was. basically the idea was that, you know, would buy time and buy 20 years. you are not against border security. what do we do with the good folks here now? >> we need that. border...
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ronald reagan sent over 200 marines to their death and there was no public outrage. where is the republican outrage? only because of obama do we get this kind of reaction. thank you. host: edward, from miami, florida, this morning. another editorial, from being west, former infantryman. host: that is from the former assistant secretary of defense. we're taking your calls on this issue. b.j., good morning. caller: good morning. my question is, who is joe kelly? why would brought well be sending her threatening e-mails? -- broadwell be sending her a threat in e-mails? host: do you think the senate needs to hold a hearing on this? caller: absolutely. i look forward to his testimony under oath this time, rather than giving the cock and bull story from before. it is all because of the video tape. now he cannot be blackmailed by anyone. host: joe kelly is described as a 37-year-old social liaison at the air force base in tampa. host: did he have an affair with her? is that when he was so upset? -- caller: did he have an affair with her? is that why he was so upset? host: d
ronald reagan sent over 200 marines to their death and there was no public outrage. where is the republican outrage? only because of obama do we get this kind of reaction. thank you. host: edward, from miami, florida, this morning. another editorial, from being west, former infantryman. host: that is from the former assistant secretary of defense. we're taking your calls on this issue. b.j., good morning. caller: good morning. my question is, who is joe kelly? why would brought well be sending...
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i thought ronald reagan had a fairly successful second term and bill clinton's was marred by his own personal issues. second trerms difficult. w. had a dficult time. one of the things i think they underestimate at the white house and the treasury is the idea of doing tax reform. when you both were probably in preschool, i was covering the '85, '86, tax reform act, and to call it heavy lifting is an understatement. it took a savvy, smart treasury secretary, jim baker, working with capitol hill and a supportive president, and democrats and republicans. i don't see any of those ingredients today to do tax reform in 2013, 2014. >> especially ifhe esident going to have a new treasury secretary. itim geithner, this has sort of been his-- tim geithner wanted to be behind tax reform, wanted to be the force behind corporate tax reform. that might speak to tim geithner staying on a little long fer they think they can get something done in the first six months. >> why is anything different now? why is anything different in the second term? >> good point. >> i'll turn the hosting to you. >> mart
i thought ronald reagan had a fairly successful second term and bill clinton's was marred by his own personal issues. second trerms difficult. w. had a dficult time. one of the things i think they underestimate at the white house and the treasury is the idea of doing tax reform. when you both were probably in preschool, i was covering the '85, '86, tax reform act, and to call it heavy lifting is an understatement. it took a savvy, smart treasury secretary, jim baker, working with capitol hill...